Randy Shaw just loves Capitalism


Well: We all know that Randy Shaw, director of the Tenderloin Housing Clinic and editor of BeyondChron, is a loyal, devoted fan of Mayor Ed Lee. We know that he pretty much sees no wrong in the Lee Administration. But his attack on the Chron's John King for daring to say that there's a lack of planning on the waterfront is remarkable not only because there IS a lack of planning on the waterfront but because Shaw's position is essentially that King is (gasp) anti-Captialist.


Ultimately, King’s critique is more directed at the U.S. capitalist system than to Mayor Lee, his predecessors, or other urban mayors. Private developers have long called the shots in urban America because the government does not go into the lucrative business of building and operating office buildings, luxury housing or tourist hotels. In the absence of government development, private interests determine what gets built. And when planners decide, under King’s favored approach, to dictate land use policies for a certain area, success is dependent on attracting private investment.

 Randy: The whole concept of city planning is "dictating land use policies for a certain area." That's not just King's favored approach; it's the essence of how progressive cities operate. Yes, you (sadly) have to attract private investment, but you don't have to let the private developers lead the way. You can say: This is the kind of city we want; if you want to build here, build to our terms.

If you don't do that, you become the wild west.

I'm surprised how far Randy Shaw has moved to the right on development issues in the past year; this piece could have been written by the folks at SPUR. Everything is about serving the needs of the private sector.

So BeyondChron is now the voice of the developers, and the Chronicle is the one raising the critical issues. What an odd world this has become.




understand the world, and furthermore cannot overcome your prejudice that everything to do with the government (except the police of course) is "good" and everything private (except your union-busting employer) is bad.

The only odd thing here is you.

Posted by Guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 3:57 pm

about this website is the right-wing commenters who proclaim the greatness of "free market" capitalism and their own fulfillment of the "American dream," but spend all their time here, pointing to their own misery and emptiness which they are trying to fill by bashing "progressives" on a progressive website.

Curious, sad and pathetic.

Posted by Guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 5:20 pm

About 10 minutes a day is all I need to deflate all this garbage.

It's amusement for me during my downtime.

Posted by Guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 5:29 pm

You have a pathetic and sick sense of "amusement." Your maturity level is that of a toddler. And what well-adjusted, rational person would waste their time coming to a site they consider "garbage?" That speaks volumes about you as a person. I don't waste any time on sites I consider garbage. I have better things to do. Clearly you don't. Maybe if you got out more you'd have some friends, but then again, who would want to know you?...considering the hate and ignorance you write on this forum.

Posted by Guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 8:32 pm

Your confirmation bias is developing blisters from all the rubbing. Perhaps some salve will clear things up.

Posted by Chromefields on May. 15, 2013 @ 7:14 am

"About 10 minutes a day is all I need to deflate all this garbage."

If that's all you "need" why do you live here? Are you paid per post or salaried (by some right-wing organization?)

Posted by Guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 8:37 pm

Yes, because Tim Redmond and the SFBG are such a threat to the dominant paradigm that some nefarious "right-wing" organization pays people to post here to salvage the nation's safety and dignity.

Let's get real - Tim Redmond and Steven Jones constantly write incendiary pieces designed to draw multiple comments and increase this site's pathetic hit rate. As it is almost none of the stories receive any broader web exposure through uprates - so ginning up "the trolls" is really their only means of upping their declining advertising revenue.

Posted by Lucretia Snapples on May. 14, 2013 @ 8:47 pm

Do either of them believe even 10% of what they write?

Posted by anon on May. 15, 2013 @ 6:38 am

And I'm sure they look it in person.

Because they see no sunshine, get no exercise, experience no beauty, no community, or even simple human touch. They have no friends. They have no lives. All they do is sit inside and make comments on websites.

The trolls on this site are pathetic, sad, ignorant, self-absorbed people. Their addiction to this website somehow gives their lives the illusion of meaning. But the reality is their lives have no meaning and they will die lonely and miserable.

Yes, it's sad.

So thankful I'm not no of those people. So, so thankful.

Posted by Dawg on May. 15, 2013 @ 5:45 pm

So why is it a problem when society trolls back?

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 7:06 pm

Because society is strong enough to handle it. Progressives aren't.

Posted by Troll on May. 15, 2013 @ 7:19 pm

And since I haven't posted the entire newly-expanded list:

lillipublican's Big List of Troll Lies

1 Presidents always move to the center

2 Progressive ideas are not popular

3 All politicians lie

4 "Purity progressives" can't compromise

5 Nader lost the election for Gore

6 Progressives have situational ethics

7 Progressives ignore pressing problems while promoting pet projects.

8 Progressives want to tell everyone else how to run their lives

9 Progressives call anybody a troll who doesnt' agree with them

10 Anybody who thinks the police must have proper civilian oversight is a "cop hater."

11 Corporations don't pay taxes

12 Poor people here are actually quite wealthy.

13 Rent control represents newcomers subsidizing those already here.

14 Social Security adds to the deficit

15 Non-criminals have nothing to fear from police investigation.

16 San Francisco "exceptionalism" is behind pro-democratic intitiatives

17 "Only whiners show up at public meetings"

18 Progressive leaders are crazy

19"Most Americans supported the war on Iraq."

20 Blacks Are Responsible for Prop 8

21 Poor people are lazy

22 Poor people commit most crimes

23 Wealth in the U.S. is broadly distributed

24 WWII -- and not the New Deal -- bailed out the U.S. economy

25 Liberal thinking is clouded by "confirmation bias."

26 The rich getting richer does not make the poor poorer

Posted by lillipublicans on May. 15, 2013 @ 7:52 pm

27. Ed Lee's approval rating isn't 61%

28. Ross Mirkarimi gently guided his wife by the arm

Posted by Troll on May. 15, 2013 @ 8:28 pm

More curious, perhaps, is how the same GOP posters that prate on an on about the sacred duty of elected officials/jurists to "strictly construe" the 2nd Amendment have zero regard for other express terms, i.e., what is good for them, well, it is different if it is you (see, e.g., Equal Protection Clause).

With regards to their failed economic policies, you'd think that the failure of the federal government to regulate credit default swap would change their views...but...never mind.

Posted by Guest on May. 22, 2013 @ 2:43 pm

In-fighting among Leftists.

"If you want to join the PFJ, you relly ave to ate the Romans."


Posted by guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 4:19 pm

squabble between the Judean Peoples' Front and Peoples' Front of Judea.

Posted by Guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 5:26 pm

There haven't been "leftists" in the United States since the 1940s.

Posted by Dave on May. 15, 2013 @ 1:48 am
Posted by lillipublicans on May. 15, 2013 @ 3:48 am

peripheral joke. The Dem's would be a right-wing party in Europe, and the GOP just a bit more right-wing than the Dem's.

America really doesn't do socialism, and the most you see is usually in a few college towns, the Vermont official nothwithstanding.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 8:33 am

Some of us are still trying.

Posted by tim on May. 15, 2013 @ 7:45 pm

Or built by a bunch of faceless city bureaucrats?

No, it was conceived, designed and built by (what would now be classified as) a billionaire.

Same goes for almost every other spectacular structure on the planet.

Muncipal means mediocer.

Posted by Guest on May. 14, 2013 @ 5:23 pm

How many people live in the Taj Mahal?

Posted by Dave on May. 15, 2013 @ 1:47 am

Nobody lives in museums, office buildings, transit terminals or libraries either.

Posted by anon on May. 15, 2013 @ 6:39 am

Are you kidding?! There's plenty of people living in museums, transit terminals and libraries. Not to mention coffe shops, cars, public parks, under freeways and anywhere else they can squeeze in.

Never been to the Taj but I bet there's people living there one way or another.

Posted by pete moss on May. 20, 2013 @ 11:07 am

there are lots of grand structures that are not built with residence in mind, and are best not used for that purpose.

Posted by Guest on May. 20, 2013 @ 11:39 am

Well building use evolves, like cities. Most of Dogpatch used to be industrial space. Now those buildings are 'live-work' lofts.

I don't see much benefit in rigid restrictions on how buildings should or should not be used.

Posted by pete moss on May. 20, 2013 @ 1:20 pm

So yes, we've adapted some obsolete indistrial space for live-work lofts, and some of them are very nice homes. But nobody is seriously suggesting turning fire stations and libraries into homes.

But if you have funds to invest, why not do that yourself?

Posted by Guest on May. 20, 2013 @ 1:36 pm

By funds do you mean time, skills and sweat equity, or just throwing $s at some old building?

Posted by pete moss on May. 21, 2013 @ 8:12 am

More Ayn Rand worshipping.

Posted by Hortencia on May. 16, 2013 @ 7:33 pm

Heck, I knew she was good but had no idea how good, I guess.

Posted by anon on May. 16, 2013 @ 8:13 pm

...idolized rabid individualism and billionaires. Like you and Margaret Thatcher, she didn't think there was any such thing as "society."

Posted by Hortencia on May. 16, 2013 @ 8:32 pm

It just didn't include mugging the successful in order to indiscriminantly throw that money at losers.

Posted by Guest on May. 20, 2013 @ 1:34 pm

The Venn diagram of Ayn Rand worshipers who imagine themselves as poor, oppressed Harrison Bergerons and keen thinkers with relevant ideas tends towards a null set. It's a belief system best suited to those who experience no demonstrable obstacles to their success and yet are still profoundly mediocre.

Posted by Guest on May. 28, 2013 @ 7:01 pm

Like City Hall? Yeah, there's a bland, mediocre building for ya.

Posted by Hortencia on May. 16, 2013 @ 8:33 pm

BeyondChron is on on-line publication.

SFBG helps destroy the rainforests and increases carbon dioxide emissions by publishing a paper edition each week.

You really need to switch to an on-line only publication in order to help save the environment.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 6:24 am

Randy Shaw is just doing his usual Shawisms....this time focusing on the mayor when everyone in San Francisco is convinced the board of supervisors is more "moderate" (ie conservative, Republican).

The reason Wiener and Farrell and the real estate crooks pushed the condo measure is that they thought the board would pass it, just as they passed Park Merced.

If Shaw needs an example (which he really doesn't. He's a propagandist for the Mayor and the people who pay all cash for housing) (http://www.laobserved.com/biz/2013/05/april_another_strong.php) (...properties that are priced right routinely receive multiple offers that are often well beyond asking. Many of those offers are all cash...)

If anyone needs an example of a big condo project that was rejected by the previous board of supervisors, look at 555 Washington....


"Last year, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors voted, 10 to 1, to quash a condominium project planned for 555 Washington Street, in the shadow of the Transamerica Pyramid. The vote stunned the developers, who were backed by former Mayor Willie L. Brown Jr. and Rose Pak, the Chinatown power broker.

Now, eight months after Mr. Brown and Ms. Pak engineered the appointment of Edwin M. Lee as interim mayor, another controversial condo project — 8 Washington Street — is moving quickly through the planning department, according to city officials.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 11:20 am

Randy Shaw likes to bring up Rincon Tower, the San Giacomo project on Market and 8th st, and the Transbay Terminal when he is about to accuse progressives of being racist against the Chinese. He seems to want to shut down discussion of the extraordinary amount of laundered money from China focused on San Francisco real estate.

"The extent of Chinese offshore real estate holdings is hard to track, given the number of jurisdictions involved and the desire for discretion. Capital controls add another layer of complexity: Chinese nationals are not supposed to remit more than $50,000 a year, a rule that is widely evaded ..."

...Vanke has also been avid in touting its overseas projects to domestic customers. Wang has said that 40% of the San Francisco project’s 655 units would be sold to Chinese buyers, with 200 already presold."


Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 11:29 am

Even if they are the object of hatred for progressives - Asians.

Go to Detroit to see what a city looks like when nobody wants to invest in it.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 11:39 am

I'll go to Detroit if you go to Hong Kong.


"Would-be Chinese property investors, facing high real-estate prices at home, have been snapping up houses and buildings overseas for some time now. The trend is several years old and widespread enough that at one point, reports suggested China’s investors could spark housing bubbles in foreign markets.

And now, it would seem, Chinese buyers have picked much of the low-hanging fruit, and turning their eyes to more challenging property investments. Those include the down-and-out real-estate market of Detroit...."

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 12:02 pm

If your life is about promoting hate based on race and nationality, I doubt that you will fit in anywhere.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 12:12 pm

That's right Detroit.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 12:50 pm

But at least you could afford it. And your lack of job skills will hardly be noticed.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 1:00 pm

Not sure it is racist to think China has a right to limit capital flight the same as any other country.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 12:10 pm

rather that they export it HERE.

Of course, given the massive amount of dollars that China collects from it's exports to us, they really have no chocie but to send it back here, since this is the only place you can spend dollars.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 12:30 pm

So why does China limit dollar exports to $50,000?

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 12:59 pm

Clearly no such limit applies on our side. Evidently we like money - who'd have thought that about America?

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 1:36 pm

Mobbed up much? (Just kidding we know it can't spread here).


Sheldon Adelson Comment About Macau Gangsters Has The Gambling Paradise On Edge


"Sands and Galaxy jointly won a Macau casino license in 2002, but they failed to reach an operational agreement and split up. Adelson, 79, when asked in a Las Vegas court why the two firms could not work together, responded that Galaxy "had expressed their judgement they were going to do business with either reputed or triad people and we couldn't do that."

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 2:35 pm

You would think a buyer from a foreign jurisdiction with high political corruption, with money controls forbidding extraction of $50,000 currency equivalent, with large numbers of cash transactions would ring some bells with local real estate professionals?

"Money laundering into real estate (MLRE) did not end with the movement of organized crime investment into Las Vegas even though many real estate professionals would like to think otherwise.1 Rather, MLRE is an enduring but insufficiently recognized international problem. Corrupt leaders, organized crime groups, and terrorist organizations channel large quantities of illicitly obtained funds into real estate daily as a way to disguise the criminal origin of their proceeds and to integrate them into the formal economy.2 These illicit funds are invested into residential and commercial real estate as well as into farmlands and tourist properties, often allowing the criminals and corrupt politicians to enjoy the profits of their criminal activities.3 Thus money launderers are able to conceal the revenues from illicit activ- ities while acquiring valuable and appreciating investments from which they benefit, thereby doubling their gains. MLRE has a long history because it has typically been a relatively safe and prestigious investment.
MLRE by criminal groups and corrupt officials has been identified on every continent but has failed to command the attention it deserves as a criminal activity."


Money Laundering into Real Estate - National Defense University

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 7:07 pm

I think what is going on is Chinese citizens export the yuan and then convert.

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 1:01 pm

How about China's interest in blocking the money corrupt bureaucrats amassed through theft and bribery? Why is that not a sympathetic story to the real estate criminal class in San Francisco?



"The latest scandal centers on an a man who has come to be known in China as “Uncle House.” He is an obscure fifty-six-year-old apparatchik named Cai Bin, a senior urban-management official and political commissar from the southern province of Guangdong who was sacked this week after investigators found that he had somehow acquired twenty-two homes, worth an estimated six million dollars. With an official salary of less than twenty-thousand dollars a year, Cai was found to be a prolific taker of bribes, according to the state press."

Posted by Guest on May. 15, 2013 @ 1:07 pm